What about Homosexuals? ? ?
Okay, I quit hating them a long time ago and realize who and what they are all about. But what is troubling me is watching this friend of mines' family and their acceptance of their gay daughters' lifestyle and her "friend" who she has now married in 6 states within this country. Not one member of this family does anything but accept her "significant other" and they all laugh together and have a good time and congratulate them on their birthdays and visit them regularly and expose their minor children to this couple with no warning or admonition whatsoever. Just this evening, this "sister" posted a picture of a beautiful bouquet of flowers presented her by her "significant other" and was bombarded with congrats and "O, How Beautiful" messages, one after another by everyone in the family and friends galore.
Am I going crazy here or is this condoning perversion and causing them all to be cursed. I just can't believe it. HELP...............What would Jesus Do?
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Permalink Reply by Bel on -
Ken Hahn said:Ok Bel interesting. What strikes me here is I'm talking about whats in christ awaken or alseep or dead. But nobody has written why is it that some people are this why or that. And oh yes it's root events are in the book. Sometimes the things that God wrote in the book are over look because the human being doesn't want to see it because of the fear you talk about. You can't judge the dead because they are all ready dead and judge by god. It is written "Let the dead bury the dead." what is done in the world of man and what is done in the world of god are two different things. The world of man is dead and judged and removed by god. The world of christ creation is alive and hold and has nothing in common with that world. Another words fear has no place there in. By the way here a ver. that fits your last statement.1 Cor. 2;14-15 " But a naturral man does not accept the things of the Spirit of god, for they are foolishness to him; and he cannot understand them, because they are spiritually appraised. But he who is spiritual appraises all things, yet he himself is appraised by no one." If one doesn't understand the base of something one can't come to a life giving reason for the why. Let the king rule ken your brother in the life giving light of god.
Does 'why' really matter?
Or 'how?'
Any of our curiosities are not part of the cause or effect but just something we personally desire for our own reasons, whatever they may be.
Faith and trust in GOD more or less negates both the 'why' and the 'how.'
Right?
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Permalink Reply by Kevin Matsanka on -
Hey Frank ,
"Am I going crazy here or is this condoning perversion and causing them all to be cursed. I just can't believe it. " This is the statement by kenneth who started the topic. I was stating this all comes from the state of perception. Here is the awesome thing that kenneth is doing, he is being honest with in him self and stating the thoughts that are in his mind about homosexuality. There is nothing wrong with that because our thoughts are not ours anyway. All perception is false in the long run. Here is the beautiful part, to be able to be honest with holy spirit, about our egoic perception, not hide behind the fig tree in the garden and let holy spirit correct that, its the beauty of atonement, or the undoing of the conditioning that we have been conditioned to in this vessel. Thats where our judgement has been stored. The only true sin there is, is the belief we are separate from God and these individual vessels are real. Through correction from holy spirit then will we be able to come back to our true state God Mind, The Kingdom of Heaven.
All is Good
Kevin
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Permalink Reply by Ken Hahn on
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I believe my point is everything of the world is a perversion and kill on the cross of christ. For one to jugde this perversion is just as wrong as the perversion. there perversion has no cause in my life no matter what it is, and as no meaning in it for one second of my time it is dead and gone from sight. I don't have to fellowship with it. and if put into a group of the perversion i can stray or go base on what christ tell me to do at that time. Thier being is his problem and not mine. It is better to be ask about something then to open ones mouth and speak things out of ones understanding that might not be what god is doing to create the being he is after.
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Permalink Reply by Ken Hahn on
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Bel ok I guess. The bible says "for if god did not spare the natural branches, he will not spare you,either." I think one needs to know the root and what the root thinks about things. This root is either christ or adam isn't it?
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Permalink Reply by Bel on
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Yes, it is. But the true root is Christ and there is but one tree...and it lives now...not double but single...
The word I get from Jesus on this subject is the one I shared here....
LOVE IS LOVE.
He teaches me that the option is simple and clear: LOVE or FEAR?
Living
Over-comers
Vanquish
Ego
or
False
Evidence
Appearing
Real
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Permalink Reply by Bel on
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Ken Hahn said:It is better to be ask about something then to open ones mouth and speak things out of ones understanding that might not be what god is doing to create the being he is after.
I wholeheartedly agree, dear Ken~!
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Permalink Reply by Frank Phenix on -
Some have a heart and mind for knowledge !!!
Some have it more simple !!!!!
Love God and everyone else !!!!
Once you figure out that God don't hate you , live your life , God will do the rest !!
What is there to understand other then that ?????
I hate intellectuals , hehehehehehehe , just kidding , they have their world , their gift and other gifts to !!!
I'm just a lover , bring me your wounded , and kittens to !!!!!!!
PS., Hi Ken and Bel !!!!!
My heart cries out to just love , I don't have to understand nothing !!!!!!
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Permalink Reply by Ken Hahn on
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you know what funny I have been in meeting with some of the greatest "so called" anointed teacher and preacher of or time. where healing and the gifts and with the wave of and arm people would fall down under the power. And this was pocliam the love of god. It's nothing more the love of the flesh and a "adulteresses generation" to qoute christ. And on the other hand I've been in meeting where the so call preachers and teacher would seat there in hate and wouldn't want anything to happean because it wasn't about them and they where not in control. then get up and preach or speak about love. CLUESSEST! I will say this when the love of god fills the room nothing is said about love as a matter of fact one doesn't even have to open ones mouth and say anything about it because of the power there of. And your so called "sins" and or the sins of other do not even cross ones mind. Oh God how much longer till the time when these foolish things of man past away and these stands of the flesh past away to the dirt where they belong?
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Permalink Reply by Frank Phenix on
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Yes yes yes !!!
The log in ones eye , can only be removed when one applies Gods unconditional and non-judgmental love towards ones self to start with . That is why , if one sees evil in others it is because the log is still there , it lets you know where you are , so to speak .
There is a whole lot to be said that goes with understanding Gods love , let me just say this one "We all fell short ..."and let him that has never sinned cast the first stone .
Any one that sees sin in some one else is still living under the law , but we are all under Grace !!!!
Thank you for sharing Randall !!!!!!!!!!!
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