Okay, I quit hating them a long time ago and realize who and what they are all about. But what is troubling me is watching this friend of mines' family and their acceptance of their gay daughters' lifestyle and her "friend" who she has now married in 6 states within this country. Not one member of this family does anything but accept her "significant other" and they all laugh together and have a good time and congratulate them on their birthdays and visit them regularly and expose their minor children to this couple with no warning or admonition whatsoever. Just this evening, this "sister" posted a picture of a beautiful bouquet of flowers presented her by her "significant other" and was bombarded with congrats and "O, How Beautiful" messages, one after another by everyone in the family and friends galore.
Am I going crazy here or is this condoning perversion and causing them all to be cursed. I just can't believe it. HELP...............What would Jesus Do?
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Permalink Reply by Frank Phenix on August 26, 2011 at 9:13am Hi Kenneth !
What would Jesus do ?
He would sit down and have dinner with them just like He did while He was alive . He did not come for the righteous . The fact that he would eat dinner with sinners is in and of itself shows that you don't turn your back on the world . So they are lesbian , what were we before ? And some of us are still struggling with our humanity even as we profess the word of God ! Love them right where they are , when given an opportunity minister to them as to what God as done for you , without telling them what to do , just be witness of Gods love in your life , without pointing the finger .
We are not sent to judge but to love . I am never saying that sin is okay . But remember the wheat and the tare parable , we all have wheat and tare in us , but we minister to the wheat and when its time God will remove the tare . It may seem like you are condoning sin if you want to look at it like that . I like to think of it as them feeling like they are loved right where they are , after all as you are having dinner with them , just like Jesus did , talk about the Father and how much He loves us !!! The fact of the matter is that in the appropriate time in their life , when the evil of our ways as rendered us empty vessels , it will be the love of the father you showed them that they will remember . Not the condemnation .
Every one in their own season , in the meanwhile we sow love , God does the rest !
Hope this helps !!
Permalink Reply by KENNETH H. DEMPSEY on August 26, 2011 at 9:17am
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Permalink Reply by KENNETH H. DEMPSEY on August 28, 2011 at 2:11pm This is all Great. I really do appreciate your comments and helping my find out WWJD in this situation.
Blessings To You............Ken
Permalink Reply by Margaret Fletcher on September 13, 2011 at 5:54pm Galatians 3:26-29 "You are all sons of God through faith in Christ Jesus, for all of you who were baptized into Christ have clothed yourselves with Christ. There is neither Jew or Greek, slave nor free, male or female, for you are all one in Christ Jesus. If you belong to Christ, then you are Abraham's seed, and heirs according to the promise."
What does God see when God looks at a gay, lesbian or bisexual individual? God sees God looking back at God. We differentiate because of the flesh we see before us. With our eyes we see male and female. Does God really see Jew or Greek, slave or free, male or female? God sees only Love...God's love. God sees God experiencing life as a gay, lesbian or bisexual individual.
Permalink Reply by Frank Phenix on September 13, 2011 at 8:56pm
Margaret !!!
You are asking the reader to say that it is okay to be gay , lesbian or bisexual .
Personally , it is not for me to judge ,never . And I just don't know , it's not important to me .
What is important to me is that no matter what you are (Which is "perfect" BTW) , that God loves you !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
The Spirit reveals to all of us , when we have a relationship with Him , what really matters in life !!!!!!!!!! And whatever is not part of that , whatever that may be , it just disappears !!!
God loves ALL !!!!
Permalink Reply by Margaret Fletcher on September 13, 2011 at 9:59pm Frank, thanks for your response :)
And no...I'm not asking the reader to say anything. I'm simply trying to point out that possibly we're looking at people through the wrong eyes. In order to manifest here, everybody has to have a body...a vessel to use while they're here in this dimension. God doesn't see or have time to be concerned with what body has been chosen. All God sees is God...Christ in us...the Divine Spark...Love...because God sees through the eyes of Spirit...the form matters not to God since its going to be discarded anyway. The form only matters to those who view life through the carnal (natural man) eyes...
Permalink Reply by Frank Phenix on September 13, 2011 at 10:40pm Apologize for miss-stating you , seriously , okay !!!
Then I agree with all you said but one thing , oh no !!!! hahahahahahaha
The form does matter to God !!!!
He promised to resurrect the saints , in that day !!(soon)
And His army of perfect lovers , His Sons will receive undying bodies !!!
Let me just say , to me , it matters not whether I die or live , only because we all live on .
But given a choice , I'd rather live , hahahahahahaha!!!!!!!
Thank you so much for sharing your love here !!!!And truth !!!
Permalink Reply by Ken Hahn on November 27, 2011 at 10:19am The problem is from the miss understanding of romans 1 it's not about homosexuals it's about adam and eve. Homosexaul are just like all the rest. How can anyone fullment the spirit in ones flesh by the act and or state of the flesh. they are no different then someone who stands up and preaches the way to god laids in the standards they have set by the past down doctrine they have learn from man, niether can come to the fullness of god by acts of the flesh and not life in the spirit.
Permalink Reply by Bel on November 29, 2011 at 3:50am Bottom line...LOVE IS LOVE.
There is never, ever, anything wrong in loving another person...regardless of details and specifics.
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