Just a thought !
If you took a seed and planted it in an sheltered environment , gave it just the right amounts of everything , protected it from disease , talked to it , loved it . You would get a beautiful , perfect tree . But then came a storm , brought ice and sub-freezing temperatures , and the perfect tree almost died , was severely weakened . Then summer monsoons came and flooded the poor perfect tree and after bugs and diseases set in and the perfect tree died . So much for being perfect !!!!!!!
God Loves us so much , that He wants is creation to be not only perfect but strong to . So He lowered us into this world , took away our memory , gave us a will , created Satan(Storms , floods , diseases all literal and figurative) . Before I go on , let me add this "I don't think we had a will before being lowered , There was nothing to have a will about , there was only God (Don't mean that diminutively), there was no other choices , it was God and nothing else ." It was a perfect sheltered environment . But what if God knew that we would encounter eventually STORMS of some kind . Or that at some point we would evolve to have a will , like an adolescent , teenagers , Watch out !!! So He created a simulator for us , EARTH .
And now WE are all going back to God , but this time of our own free will , having been exercised , stronger , smarter , more perfect !!!!!!!! Actually knowing what our hearts really want , all doubts removed . Alleluia !!!!!!!!!!
Not a lesson , just a thought !!!
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BROTHER BROTHER-I do say brother with alll my heart and truth-I Love one especially who so reminds me of what LOVE is teaching me in how to appreciate and bless and make no excuses for nor apologise when from that Love/Christ-filled heart full of passions and greatest goodness and wanting--like ME!--to share it, and here comes something you want to say, and so the lie/fear thang that Christ--ultimately has also redeemed/reconciled and LOVES, but he's stilll trying to lie hell into existance until LOVE transforms him and his too; anyways, when you said: just had a thought [The thought, coming from the heart and spirit of the first and most precious gift Love gave you, YOU; to merely abandon yourself in trust to LOVE's promise to give you what ever you ask and all you need and we know that's reliable and a given, your job is, to be FDrank and have thoughts; to consider those lillies, yeah, not to worry, not to do, or not do, but to grab ahold of those thoughts so passionate that they are Spirit and don't quench it, takes so long for our flesh minds gettin in the way, to get our reality Love vision and see , look for count and share; "OH NO!?!" Bro. ever since the brain damage I beeen talkin--never before and never wanted to get close to people, then, by LOVE's plan, I am strategically adjusted and find myself unable to stop talking to total strangers in the hard-ass capital of the midwest, Chicago (where, like nyc, strangers don't come up to you and say: "hey ain't 's Love f---ing great (tact I work on, and local vernacular, ha ha--point is, the f words ect., ain't no thing to LOVE's spirit stirring me, it was the 1 kazilllion infini-volts of LOVE from a man who had only just been absolutely intimate and fully experienced with body, spirit and mind, His Savior, Love incarnate, in broad daylight and ...well, Love-daddy kept the window on the usual veil for 7 years, baby sat me, I left Chicago after major brain trauma and relearniing how to be! and Love took me all over the ssouth and to specific people and i heard my mouth and saw vividly what GOD seees when he sees as I was always blown away cause I was seeing as I always saw plus the absolute certainty and Physicallly percieved, moreover spirit certified, LOVE INcarnate's Holy Spirit of truth and Love that NEVER SAW UGLY, NEVER SAW NASTY, NEVER SAW MURDERER, never saw anything but the flesh's kind of bead curtain over HIS infinitely beLOVed child who He privalaged me to seee as HE sees everyone all the time, and would say with the beautiful, absolute loving laughter; as i'd see, say the lil killer gang banger he led me to, me lookin like well, a brain damaged ol white boy on murder row by bus station orlando, and 1 1/2 hour later saw the awesomely loved and all the goodthings, including the griefs, the pains, the way love started fixing and blocking that lie and fears most evil and nasty instrument; to convince each and every one of somehow that we're at once whatever lying bs soiety/media spun/tv-land/relions lies and warps-say we are and quickly taught that anything you feel, oooh that's....sappy.....sentiment....childish....feelings....(whcih the lies convinces at the same time, many, to believe are, when appropriate, both the worst weaknesss and degrading evil, and the most awesome pleasure source to over stimulate, or worse, to bind and imprison in a lie called self discipline and self-restraint [uhm...don't quench the spirit....you'lll know them by their Love.....And Jesus kissed the brothers and....greet one another with feeeling and affection and warmth--love one another --and everyone possible, tenderly, affectionately, with deepest heart-sentiment and spirit with truth and not afraid to show what the world c/religio/'BIBLE TRANSLATIONS/people/media, that feelings are for the stupid, the sappy, the female, the gay, as regards one type of lie to one type--you know! bro-what ever is convenient;
BECAUSE THE SECRET IS, THAT SENTIMENTAL, SWEET, MUSHY, SAPPY SPOT IS EXACTLY WHERE AND HOW AND WITH WHICH GOD'S ALL POWERFUL SPIRIT OF ALLL POWER GOOD AND LOVE FOR ABSOLUTELY ALL EVERY THING AND ONE HE CREATED, IS EXTREMLY TOUCHY-FEELY AND THE POWER OF LOVE TER-RI-FYSZ LIE/FEAR AND THE ENTIRE PROGRAMMMED ELITE OF WHOS WHO IN MEDIA, RELIGION, SCRIPTURES, POLITICS, 'ALLOWED SENTIMENTS: DYINE AND KILLIN FER A COLLERED PIECE OF CLOTH ON A STICK FOR A LABEL AND CATCH PHRASE--ALLOWED, PASSION AND SLUGGY HUGGY A BEEER TOO MANY DURING A CLASS REUNION AND THE BOYS....HA HA.
dearest brothers i am so thankful i can me meek and mild and sweet and what ever i got to say to this flesh mind and senses to get to the humble, sweeet and always the giver, the One willling to be 'used' or treated as a hurt, or scared grown chilld of man will act when unable to admit how scared he is to be seen as scared of anything that he's willing to die in a fight or kill in one, rather than be who he is in his heart, and realise only what I think matters, because I am Love's he always knows aheadof time and he gives me this life and awesomwe freedom to LOVE it and Live it fro the Soul/Spirit I am and that He too Is part of, and as long as I amreal, and honest to me, and what I know (in my tiny tiny base of experience and knowledge) He will show me--as long as I am willling to, if need be, push what ever sentiment, feelings ect., that i have learned are consistent with caring, giving, tolerance of every human soul and accepting the fact that LOVE is always kind, never harsh, rude, loud...ect. ya know--and LOVE/GOD always takes me from there and I live bits of heaven every day and aever hour and exponentially growing in Love and Love's promisees as i type! You exist! Frank and whomever reads--PROOF ABSOLUTELY POSITIVE THAT YOU ARE LOVE BEYOND THE IDEA THAT IF ALLL YOUR LOVES WORTH DYING FOR WERE STILL A PEARLY BUT TINY SAND GRAIN ON AN INFINITE BEACH OF SAND, ALL OF THAT SAND WOULD NOT EVEN BEGIN TO CHARATERISE THE UNFAILINGLY GOOD KIND ABSOLUTELY UNREJECTABLE UNAVOIDABLE LOVE THAT OUR CREATOR/SAVIOR/MOST PRECIOUS GIVER OF ALL AND EVERYTHING-CREATOR AND PLANNER OF THIS SEEMINGLY DISMAL AND UGLY-TO THE FLESH-WORLD THROUGH THE FLESH'S SENSES VIA THE lie/fear--FOR THE MOST AWESOME AND PRECIOUS DRAMA AND SOON TO OPEN THE CURTAIN ON, I BELIEVE--1ST COR. 13'S REAL PROPHECY FOR LOVE'S CREATION AND OUR BEGINING--I LOVE YA BROTHER-DAVID
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OH YES YES YESTHIS EXAACTLY WHAT LOVE IS BEEN SHOWQING ME FRANK I MEAN BRO--THIS IS EXACTLY RIGHT--WE LEARNING WHAT LOVE REALLLY IS AND WHAT PART OF US--OUR HEARTS AND FEELINGS AND THE PASSIONS THE EXACT THINGS THE LIE/FEAR HAS RELIGION BIBLES, MEDIA, SOCIETY SAYING IS NOTHING BUT SENTIMENT---BUT YOU AND GOD PROVED TO MY FLESH BRAIN THAT THE SPIRIT FEELINGS AND MUSH IS WORTH INFINITELY MORE THAN ALL WHAT THE CALL REASON AND SOBERNESS AND THE COLDNESS, ISOLATION, EXCUSES LIKE "tough LUV--IT AIN'T love/god'S love (1ST cORINTHIANS 13)! bLESS gOD TO bbless you brother he lead me to the perfect place today and at the perfect time to the perfect brother who he shown me first time you wrote what you are and i would love you like myself cause we're a lot of like each other--thank you for being my friend and letting god use you to show me what we and alll this beautiful awesome glorious spirit/flesh experience is, and that we both are steel sharpening steel-Love you Frank! i praisee Love's infinite goodness YOU SEE TOO!
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It will take a while to wipe this happy smile of my face , thank you David !!!! You are Right-on-LOVE !!!!!!!!!!!!!!
And God bless our Wives who have MS , let them feel nothing but LOVE .
Love to every one who crosses our/His path !!!!
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you know Frank, i know in my spirit our wives could really and will truly bless each other with two live wire gonzos every couple times a month for maybe a week or so to days when Love's Light and unvieled so thick, presence, reaveals and loves and shows us what gooder and gooder more uneven-thunkably-sweet and true-undeniably only GOD's LOVe's brilliance in mercies and redemptions and Her/His?it's Ever absolute hog-wild-unlimited and unrestrained Sharing and blessing and revealing to more and more....
and we are in--not OH NO NO NO! NOT TO GIVE LABEL, NOR NO RANK--ALL GET EQUALLY ALL LOVE'S LOVE AND THEIR UNIQUES DESIRES, WAYS AND EXPERIENCE PLUS PRE-DESTINED AND LOVE-INFINITE MIND AND ALL OMNISCIENT-ALL-POWER-LIMITLESS SOURCE OF LOVING ER AND LOVING WAYS TO SHARE WHAT "THE cOPLETE, tHE pERFECT; AS BRO pAUL CALLS dA fADDUH; WHO ACTUALLY IS MORE tHE mUTHER--BUT IS KIND AND SWEET TO US MENT AND THE COMMON MISCONCEPTION ABOUT WHERE THE SOURCE OF HUMANITY AND IT'S FEEDING CARRYING BEARING AND NURTURING, ALL IN ONE PACKAGE--AA SOLDIER, CAUGHT MYSELF, WILL ALMOST ALWAYS, NO MATTER HOW TOUGH, CALL FOR MOTHER ON THE BATTLE FIELD, fRANK; WE SHARE HER SOUL/SPIRIT, HERlOVE/SPIRIT SPIRIT AND OUR CONSTRUCTION AND hOLY lOVE sPIRIT HIGH GLOW PRESENCE ALL ALONG...WHEW! TELL ME GOD'S METAPHORICAL POWER, LEADERSHIP, TALENTS, GIFTS, AND NATURAL SPIRITUAL, PHYSICAL AND COMPLETE PACKAGE MAKES THE LITTLE (HEH HE HHEH, YEAH-TELL YA BOUT MY LIL SOUTHERN MAMIE SOME DAY, I RAN TO BIG OL 6 '1" DADDY BEGIN HIM TO WHUP ME FORE THAT LIL GORGEOUS 4'9" 90 LBS COTTON PICKEN PEACH-TREE SWANGEN GAL MY MAMA GOT HOLT ME!
ANY WAYS, I'M SURE THE COULD COMFORT THE SELVES AS WOMEN OFTEN DO IN THEIR COMPARING THEIR LIL MEN'S UHM, SHIT-BEAN-CRAZINESS AND JUST A COUPLE TADS OVER TOO F--ING EXCITED TO QUENCH EVEN WITH HURICAINE ELVIRA! HA HA---LOVE YA BRO.
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I will ask Michelle today if she would like for me to give yours her e-mail !!!
And then they can talk about the real us !!!! hahahahahaha !!!!
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David !!
Feel like we have a friendship to nurture !!
Waiting to hear from you !! Love , Frank
david patrick said:you know Frank, i know in my spirit our wives could really and will truly bless each other with two live wire gonzos every couple times a month for maybe a week or so to days when Love's Light and unvieled so thick, presence, reaveals and loves and shows us what gooder and gooder more uneven-thunkably-sweet and true-undeniably only GOD's LOVe's brilliance in mercies and redemptions and Her/His?it's Ever absolute hog-wild-unlimited and unrestrained Sharing and blessing and revealing to more and more....
and we are in--not OH NO NO NO! NOT TO GIVE LABEL, NOR NO RANK--ALL GET EQUALLY ALL LOVE'S LOVE AND THEIR UNIQUES DESIRES, WAYS AND EXPERIENCE PLUS PRE-DESTINED AND LOVE-INFINITE MIND AND ALL OMNISCIENT-ALL-POWER-LIMITLESS SOURCE OF LOVING ER AND LOVING WAYS TO SHARE WHAT "THE cOPLETE, tHE pERFECT; AS BRO pAUL CALLS dA fADDUH; WHO ACTUALLY IS MORE tHE mUTHER--BUT IS KIND AND SWEET TO US MENT AND THE COMMON MISCONCEPTION ABOUT WHERE THE SOURCE OF HUMANITY AND IT'S FEEDING CARRYING BEARING AND NURTURING, ALL IN ONE PACKAGE--AA SOLDIER, CAUGHT MYSELF, WILL ALMOST ALWAYS, NO MATTER HOW TOUGH, CALL FOR MOTHER ON THE BATTLE FIELD, fRANK; WE SHARE HER SOUL/SPIRIT, HERlOVE/SPIRIT SPIRIT AND OUR CONSTRUCTION AND hOLY lOVE sPIRIT HIGH GLOW PRESENCE ALL ALONG...WHEW! TELL ME GOD'S METAPHORICAL POWER, LEADERSHIP, TALENTS, GIFTS, AND NATURAL SPIRITUAL, PHYSICAL AND COMPLETE PACKAGE MAKES THE LITTLE (HEH HE HHEH, YEAH-TELL YA BOUT MY LIL SOUTHERN MAMIE SOME DAY, I RAN TO BIG OL 6 '1" DADDY BEGIN HIM TO WHUP ME FORE THAT LIL GORGEOUS 4'9" 90 LBS COTTON PICKEN PEACH-TREE SWANGEN GAL MY MAMA GOT HOLT ME!
ANY WAYS, I'M SURE THE COULD COMFORT THE SELVES AS WOMEN OFTEN DO IN THEIR COMPARING THEIR LIL MEN'S UHM, SHIT-BEAN-CRAZINESS AND JUST A COUPLE TADS OVER TOO F--ING EXCITED TO QUENCH EVEN WITH HURICAINE ELVIRA! HA HA---LOVE YA BRO.
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Dear Brother Frank: I hope I don't seem rude or 'too' crazy, a lot of times; at least, as 'this' world and society...and most 'normal' folks...count craziness, I guess, but I have a lot more passion and spirit than ability and sense to say it--as i see it in 'my' calmer and less 'inspired' moments. But I mean and am absolutely true, loyal and real about everything i say--please pray for the Lord of Love and all Goodness, WISDOM, TACT and Good Sense to dish this needy needy brother a much larger helping. And I apologise for rattling on and on and then dropping of the radar for days. I am who I a, and as I say, I speak and say what I do in all the Love and sincerity that I can know and that the Lord and Source/Saver/Christ/God of ALL Goodness gives me--sometimes it seems as if in bursts like niagra falls being shot through a drinking straw and in my flesh I feel i got to try and say it all at once on paper or to someone somehow or explode....so it sounds--and looks, it would seem. Please forgive my bursts of semi-articulate 'sharing of inspiration, but it appears that the Lord has shown you my soul and spirit and nothing you say would anger or cause me to do anything but pray for improvment, so if I have offended or you have any suggestions considering some of my longer writing, pray and then tell me what The Love that lead us (and is leading us all, ) to bless and encourage and pray for and deepen our Love and Love-likness, by making it so we met here , whatever and anything and everything that you see in the awesome and good-hearted Love and wisdom I can sure use all of I can get. Thanks again, Frank, and BTW-sorry I haven't been able to get Debbie to email your Michelle, yet, she is shy, but I will send her Deborah's email via your private messaging, too. God's best today. I am aware that I am alive again...I know you know what I am talking about. Yer bro. David
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David !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
I love your writings !!!! You/Him express extremely well the Love/His love that is in you !!!! Your awareness of what is not is outmatched by what "Is" . And that you convey very well , so excitedly that its contagious !!!! We are all unique in our sense of expression only to be joined in love .
I am always so glad to hear from you . Dry periods , or less inspired periods do quiet us sometimes and in those times we are just as close , brothers , suffering together as we grow together , I am just like you , I am you , we share this flesh , we know the struggles and we also know the love/His love that we are becoming !! You are NEVER alone !!!
Tell Deborah that Michelle is very shy . She was traumatized by parent and grand-parents that showed her nothing but a punishing God , as they withheld their love from her for righteousnes/lie sake . She learned not to trust people the hard way . Miraculously she trusts God with all her heart and without healthy teachings she loves all . I learned a lot about Agape love from her . If anyone understands shy , she does .
BTW , I don't pray for you , I pray for US and many like US , we are called and are being separated (ouch) unto and into the real US/Him , where Joy and Peace abounds thew Love !!!
At the risk of sounding repetitious , I Love you David !!!!
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THIS LETTER REPLY FROM YOU ANSWERS SO MANY PRAYERS AT ONCE I PRAISE AND BLESS THE LOVE THE GOD AND GOOD GOOD SAVER (I DON'T LIKE ARCHAIC TERMS LIKE 'Savior'-JESUS IS "THE SAVER!" PERIOD! LOVE SAVED US ALL!) WHO IS AND IN CHRIST GAVE ME (DEBBIE AND I, AND BRO. & SIS. SIGLAR'S FORUM AND FELLLOWSHIP--THE WORLD) FRANK & MICHELLE AND I KNOW WHETHER WE EVER SEE EACH OTHER HERE WITH FLESHLY EYES WE ALREADY KNOW EACH OTHER WAY BETTER IN TRUTH THAN SENSES COULD EVER FATHOM, AND WE'RE ETERNALLY IN LOVE'S KINGDOM AND SHINING BRIGHTER EVERY LOVE SENT SHOUT WE GIVE EACH OTHER-OH, CHRIST/LOVE BLESS YA'LL-DAVID
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What can I say , I just enjoy you so much , thank you for this and the other replies , truly !!!
I love you so much !!!!
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Hey, bIG bESTEST bUDDY! heh heh: Guess what?! i SENT BRO. sIGLAR A LETTER and a link to a, "Sufi," site, called: "A Bowl of Saki (nothing to do with the Japanese wine), about true religion and how, Love--as we know--IS True religion, AWA, God's very nature and Spirit-Character.
Anyways, i mentioned your helping me and vs. a vs., and how the lord blesses us--He is a blessing and so are you! We are given to reveal to this word/religions/societies/ect. the Reality, Goodness and universal redemption in Christ God's Cosmic Salvation for ALL of God's Creation. It makes us better and fills us ever more full of The LOVe and Power (which is LOVE) of God. Havin' a great day I pray--Love ya, David & Debbie
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Wow wow wow wow wow wow ..... , Thank you so much David !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Just went and read
The Life and Teachings of Hazrat Inayat Khan
How we need this !!!!!!!! I will pass this on !!!!!!!!!!
All should read this !!!!!,
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